22nd September 2005.
Sanchi (Miracle System) came 1st, Keys Of Cyprus(Best Lay bet
of the Day) came in 12th!
Well a mixed bag yesterday but it was interesting ti see the
RacingPost RP Rating from the naps table winning at 13/2 giving
a profit of £325.00 taking our £500 start bank to £800!
Another win for the Miracle System but the Lay bet a day was not
good, it's always the same though when I put lay bet a day in this email
and it loses.
Well first of all I think we would be silly to decide to lay RacingPost
Rp as we know from the results that we will have to take a hit around
every 4 selections, although 12 losers in a row is inviting!
On the naps table alone there are plenty of tipsters having very bad
losing runs Newcastle Journal Underhand is one they have had 36 losers
in a row and the best winning run is 2.
But for this demonstration I want to use Turners Lay Tips for two
1. The tips are well established
2. Some can be quite high on the odds side.
After some discussions David recently changed his staking plan in line
with my own current thinking, which is to use a small percentage of your
bank which allows you to use an agresive staking plan.
This is an excerpt of what he sent out to his members…
I have also been working on the staking plan to use and after talking
with many people including Malcolm (http://www.laybetting.com) and have
decided to use his most popular staking plan with this service.
The staking plan is easy and comes in two parts the first is calculating
your stake which should be somewhere between 0.5% and 2% of your bank.
It's easy to work out…
With a calculator take your present bank (say £500) and them click the
multiply (X) followed by 1 (or the stake you prefer) then the percent(%)
button which in this case will give you £5.00
Otherwise just take whatever your bank is and divide it by 100.
The second part is a little bit more difficult and needs a bit of
working out, and has some risks.
You may have heard of the Lay Ladder, which is a bit of an aggressive
staking plan, but tends to work better with lay bets because we have a
lot more winners than losers, so I have decided to use it for this
service, but I have made a small change that I think will suit this
Looking back on the results for the 1st of January we have not had more
than 2 losers in a row and when it did occur it has only happened twice
in 8 months, which is why I am confident in recommending this plan to my
Here is how it works:
After a win on Runner Bean the next day we lost on Penneyrose Bay so for our next lay (using adjusted Betfair odds) we work out our normal stake 9.01 (1% of 900.96) and add the loss from Penneyrose Bay (30.76) making our new stake 39.77. We then win on Another Promise bringing our winnings back to where they should be.
||9 - 1
|| Penneyrose Bay
|| 11 - 4
|| Another Promise
|| 11 - 4
But what happens on that rare occasion when we lose again?
After a win on Prins Willem we lost on McKeelvey (using adjusted Betfair
odds) 39.74, so for our next bet we take that loss and add it to our 1%
of our new bank (6.60) making a new stake of 47.63, but unusually this
time we lost again.
|| Prins Willem
|| 11 - 4
|| 4 - 1
|| Victoms Chance
|| 9 - 4
|| 5 - 1
What we do next is forget the money we lost on the first race and
concentrate getting back the bigger sum on the last so we add 128.6 to
our new stake of 6.60 which gives us our new stake of £135.20.
Here is how it looks on live results.
There are risks with this system and I wouldn't expect anyone to use
this plan unless they are very confident of my tips and it would
certainly be better if you were using only 0.5% of your bank.
An alternative plan and probably much safer for many members is to use
the lay ladder on the first loss, but if you lose again then use a
strategy to get back your loses over several races.
Looking back on the past results it is clear to see that we very often
get 3 or more winners in a row, so simply divide your losses by 3 and
add them to the next 3 selections If you should be unfortunate to get
another loss during this period, then just add it to any losses you
have not made up and split it into 3 again, this method may take a bit
longer to get your bank back to where it was, but you most certainly
Tomorrow we will discuss why I felt this change was best for his
service and each point in more detail.
For now though for those of you wondering about the implementation of
the lay ladder (which in effect is the Martingale Staking System), You
can see by David’s results and probably many other lay systems, it is
very rare to get two losers in a row and even rarer to have 3, so I
think as long as you limit your maximum losing run using this system,
it works very well with lay bets.
Have good day's racing.
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16:40 FONTWELL PARK, Celtic Star (V4 Jump Slections)
I thought I would stick my neck out this morning and give you a test
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Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 so I will
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