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18th December 2006

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

I hope you had a good weekend.

Carrying on from Friday

Ok Howard your correct, my system isn't good enough and we did have our 3 losers in a row, actually it is one each because using the "Rule of 3" staking system, we still won on the day.

I know Howard isn't the type to gloat but he was correct and we must thank him for his warning, but we must also remember that this is a test and so we need to see if we can learn anything from it.

Well I think first thing is that out Stop Loss Limit is set to high, because the 3 losers wouldn't have set it off today and although we would have one back 2/3rds of our loses on the next two races we would have lost on the 3rd race taking our loses way over our Stop loss Limit.

I suggest we make it 25 x our stake, that should just be over the 2 losses in a row limit but certainly make sure we stop after the 3rd loss.

Anyway at least we learned something even though the second half of Fridays selections were pretty bad.

We now have to wait to see what this weeks brings but just so you know our settings for today are.

Stake: 2.12 x 3% = 2.18 (this will round up tomorrow)
Profit Stop: 2.18 x 3 = 6.54 ( I am taken this down by a couple of pence to 6.52, it's a bot thing!)
Stop loss: 2.18 x 25 = 54.50.

I will admit that I am disappointed with the results Friday I thought I had a better system than that, but I think another thing we have to think about is the (*) selections, they represent 30% of our losses and are the reason for 3 in a row on Friday.

Anyway we are still testing and although it was a bad run our test is still winning.

So our settings today are:

2.12 x 3% = 2.18
Stop win: 2.18 x 3 = 6.54 (Take it down to 6.50)
Stop Loss: 2.18 x 25 = 54.50

Here is how the setup looks in the Grey Bot option screen.

You may have noticed that the latest version of Grey Horse bot option screen above now has "Auto Select" and "Manual" select. This is in the next release and now allows you to choose between, price range selections (As in the original greyhound bot) and Manual runner selection. This has allowed us to put the two different bots in to one.

Sorry, I was hoping to ramble on a little longer this morning, but something has come up and I have to go out.

2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.
NO BET if odds above 9.00 at Betfair

Friday's (15 Dec 2006)

Utto 1245 - Where's Trigger - 9th - Betfair 24.0 - no bet
Asco 1310 - Pass Me A Dime - F - Betfair 19.0 - no bet
Wolv 1520 - Weightless - NR
Wolv 1555 - Right Ted - 8th - Betfair 32.0 - no bet
Kemp 1750 - Paraguay - 8th - Betfair 38.0 - no bet

Here are today's (18 Dec 2006)
Wolv 1400 - Up The Pole
Kemp 1425 - Ella Y Rossa
Kemp 1455 - Wodhill Gold
Taun 1515 - Beluga
Kemp 1555 - Hill Of Almhuim

Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec before the off.

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9.
Points since we started + 4.83

14.15 Wolverhampton, Dress To Impress, EP 3.4 (2 Places) NR
14.35 Ascot, Harmony Brig, EP 3.3 (2 Places) 5th
14.50 Wolverhampton, Marko Jadeo, EP 2.98 (2 Places) 5th
15.20 Wolverhampton, Bahar Shumaal, EP 2.04 (3Places) 6th
16.50 Kempton, Alexian EP 2.6 (3Places)1st
Only one win on friday taking another 1.4pts out of our profit so far. I am having second thoughts about using 5 runner races but we will to continue to test for a while.

Today's EP taken at 7.50
13.05 Taunton, Back For The Craic, EP 5.5 (2 Places)
Only the one today.

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15:10, Ascot, Mambo Des Mottes 12th

16:05, Wolverhampton, Peruvian Prince

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12:15 Uttoxeter, Never So Blue 1st 5/1

Today: 15:15 Taunton, Sitting Duck

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7. Today's sponsor tip
The Golden Egg Lay

Selection 1: Taunton 12.30Dillay Brook
Selection 2: Kempton 1.50 Mikimoto
Selection 3: Kempton 4.25 Rajyoga
Selection 4: Wolverhampton 2.35 Finished Article

Please Note: We now have a No Bet rule if the horse is trading at 5/1 or over.

If you have a bank of £500 you divide it by 50 giving you a stake of £10 so your level stake would be £10 on each selection for that week.

The Golden Egg Lay

8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

After playing around with selections I have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are from the original and tighter system.
You can see all the results since the 14th (when I introduced the latest selection method) here. I am now using what I call the "rule of 3", this means we go for 3 wins and use a 3 race scratch back to get back any losses.

Walthamstow BAGS, 11.28, Nikray Gifted, Trap 4 3rd 3/1
Hall Green BAGS, 11.34, Bit View Class, Trap 4(*) 5th 11/4
Hall Green BAGS, 12.04, Prometheus, Trap 2 (*) 5th 4/1
Walthamstow BAGS, 12.12, Muck Spreader, Trap 1 1st 3/1 - LOST
Walthamstow BAGS, 13.12, Lycon Ned, Trap 1 5th 5/2
Hall Green BAGS, 13.33, Wood Tru, Trap 4 4th 2/1
Walthamstow BAGS, 13.44, Tea Biscuit, Trap 6 4th 3/1
Walthamstow BAGS, 14.03, Hypatia Blue, Trap 1(*) 2nd 7/4
Monmore BAGS, 14.37, Hollybush Lass, Trap 6 6th 9/2
Swindon BAGS, 14.47, Delius Moon, Trap 2 5th 5/2
Swindon BAGS, 15.07, Premier Major, Trap 6(*) 4th 7/2
Monmore BAGS, 15.17, Glenanore Lady, Trap 5 3rd 4/1
Swindon BAGS, 15.28, Ballymac Preview, Trap 1 2nd 4/1
Swindon BAGS, 15.48, Distant Dodger, Trap 3(*) 1st 3/1 4.20 - LOST
Monmore BAGS, 15.58, Lode Of Yank, Trap 2 1st 6/4 3.80 - LOST
Swindon BAGS, 16.27, Autumn Fire, Trap 6 1st 7/2 5.50 - LOST
Monmore BAGS, 16.37, Breeze Hill Juli, Trap 3 2nd 4/1 5.30
Swindon BAGS, 16.48, Get Over It, Trap 6 6th 7/2 6.60
Monmore BAGS, 17.17, Ronnies Hare, Trap 4 1st 9/4 - LOST
Swindon BAGS, 17.27, Daytwo, Trap 2 1st 4/1 - LOST
Monmore BAGS, 17.33, Westmead Swift, Trap 3(*) 3rd 7/2
Swindon BAGS, 17.44, Torpeys Dream, Trap 3 6th 4/1
Monmore BAGS, 18.04, Wendys Guest, Trap 1 6th 7/2
Swindon BAGS, 18.11, Falkners Swift, Trap 5(*) 1st 4/1 - LOST
25 selections 7 losers (Screen Shot)

Here are today's.
Sheffield BAGS, 11.28, Daves Gift, Trap 5
Sheffield BAGS, 11.42, Cobi Leone, Trap 3
Sheffield BAGS, 11.57, Stepaside Mini, Trap 1
Sheffield BAGS, 12.27, Brosna Mison, Trap 5
Sheffield BAGS, 12.58, Kirstys Pie, Trap 3
Swindon BAGS, 13.19, Falkners Swallow, Trap 2
Sheffield BAGS, 13.44, Chance Chat, Trap 6
Walthamstow BAGS, 14.18, Harcourt, Trap 5
Monmore BAGS, 15.07, Dads Ray, Trap 2
Walthamstow BAGS, 15.58, Toumpane Wood, Trap 5
Monmore BAGS, 16.27, Dels Belle, Trap 2
Monmore BAGS, 16.48, Lakers Raffles, Trap 3
Monmore BAGS, 17.27, Dingle Driver, Trap 1
Walthamstow BAGS, 17.33, Iona Prince, Trap 4
Monmore BAGS, 18.11, Bluebell Zena, Trap 2(*)

15 selections today.

I set the Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.

9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections started 13/11/2006

This is a win system (test) that me and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one really refining it. Click Here to see the results so far.

Points + 6.56

14.50 Wolverhampton, Quiet Times 1st 6/4 /Marko Jadeo 5th 6/1

Today. 12.30 Taun: Dillay Brook/Resonance

Use 50/50 if you can make profit whatever the outcome. I am using 1pt on each selection.

10. New - Win Selections started 07/11/2006

This is a new win system that John from Luv2Lose has asked me to show you. He expects the price to drop all the way to the off with these and the idea is to get the best price above odds-on as you can. The verdict is still out on whether to take selections that are below evens.
Points: +1.67

Friday: Exchange Prices taken at 7.51 am
Uttoxeter 13.50 OPERA DE COEUR EP 1.73 9th 1/2
Ascot 14.35 NATAL EP 1.82 4th
Wolverhampton 14.50 QUIET TIMES EP 2.06 1st 6/4
Made a little profit.

Today: Exchange Prices taken at 7.51 am
Wolverhampton 14.35 TEMPLET 4.0

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