14th December 2006
I don't know what is up with the Racing Post site at the
moment but it was quite hard work getting all the information
Carrying on from
I am sorry it appears that my working out of
the maximum lost may have been a little low using 7.00 as the stake. It should
have been 166.86.
Another win today took my winnings since I started
using the selections with the
Grey Horse bot
to over 60.00, which we decided yesterday would be our maximum risk.
the question is should I keep at the same stake for a bit longer,
I increase my stake now, and if so, should I also increase my stop loss in case
we do have the dreaded bad run that Howard was kind enough to warn us
There are several popular ways of deciding when to increase your
1. Take a % of your bank everyday.
2. At the end of every week
3. After every win
And I am sure you can think of
The thing is at the moment we are breaking one of my own rules
which is to go for a profit of just 0.5 to 1% of your bank a day . At the
moment we are asking for 3%, which is quite high
But if we increase our
stake immediately then we risk losing everything we have already made and maybe
even more, so here is my proposal.
Now normally and I would suggest just
seeing what happens over a couple of months, but I do have a license to test as
the bank I am using is purely for that.
So from now on I am going to use
1. The next day after a full 3pt win (3 races) I am
going to increase my base stake by 3%. So today it is 2.06 (+ commission)
I am going to multiply my sake by 30 to get my stop loss and of course multiply
it by 3 to get my daily profit stop.
(Side note: have you noticed how a
lot of 3's and 6's keep turning up with this system? A little
Now I must repeat myself, this is purely an experiment and one
I wouldn't suggest you follow and I know many of you will be have kittens for
me even suggesting it.
Here is how my Grey Horse options will look today. (your
screen maybe slightly different as we are just testing a new version with the
original Greyhound bot incorporated into the Grey Horse Bot)
Howard sent me another email last night with more information of why he is
against this kind of staking and again his arguments are spot on. What I will
do is print his latest email in a couple of days so you can make up your own
mind. I think it is fair that you see both sides of the argument.
will discuss more points about staking tomorrow.
2. Guest Selection
- started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.
BET if odds above 9.00 at Betfair
Newb 1355 - Viciana - 11 th - SP 15/2
- Betfair 10.0 - no bet
Ling 1450 - Shava - 1st - SP 9/2 - Betfair 6.2 -
Wolv 1820 - Art Historian - NR
Here are today's (14 Dec
Exet 1240 - Silverio
Sout 1330 - Brean Dot Com
Catt 1350 -
Exet 1510 - Countess Point
Wolv 1550 - Snow Bunting
Wolv 1720 - Sparkwell
Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec
before the off.
3. Place System (win Bet) - Started
This is a
Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far
here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9.
Points since we started + 9.83
Today's EP taken at 8.27
12.30 Southwell, Suntan Lady EP
2.44 (2 Places)
13.10 Exeter, Out The Black EP 2.52 (3 Places)
Catterick, Trafalgar Man, EP 2.52 (3 Places)
14.00 Southwell, Hilltop
Destiny EP 2.4 (2 Places)
14.30 Southwell, Captain Oats 2.48 (2
17.50 Wolverhampton, New Beginning, 2.82 (3 Places)
Miracle System (win Bet)
12:50 Newbury, Hot 'N' Holy 3rd
15.10 Exeter, Chamoss Royale
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As at 8 o'clock this morning the
following horses were identified as within Bismarx range.
Watch for market
changes before the race.
Exercise caution at odds over 2.8 or where
non-runner's have left less than 5 runner's in a race.
Generally do not
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Quit when your profit target has been reached.
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14.00 Sthl ZED CANDY @2.5
14.50 Catt JOLLY BOY @2.4
15.20 Catt DIGITAL MEDIA @2.5
15.40 Exe PRESENTING COPPER @2.1
8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System
After playing around with selections I have
decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I
have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect
there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that
will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to
record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are
from the original and tighter system.
You can see all the results since the
14th (when I introduced the latest selection method)
here. I am now using what I call the "rule of 3", this means
we go for 3 wins and use a 3 race scratch back to get back any
Hall Green BAGS, 11.19, Greenview Clover, Trap 3
Brough Park BAGS, 11.28, Morton Chablis, Trap 2 6th 9/4
Green BAGS, 12.04, Rogflo, Trap 4 2nd 5/2
Brough Park BAGS, 12.27, Jack
Spot, Trap 2 5th 3/1
Brough Park BAGS, 13.44, Canny Hornet, Trap 4 1st 4/1
Hall Green BAGS, 13.51, Tullymurry Wish,
Trap 4 5th 7/2
Brough Park BAGS, 14.03, Solway Admiral, Trap 2 4th 7/2
Hove BAGS, 14.08, Lady Trevali, Trap 1 2nd 5/2
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.37,
Tomorrows Press, Trap 4 2nd 5/2
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.57, Tanhill Tom, Trap 6
Hove BAGS, 15.28, Casino Valentine, Trap 6(*) 1st 2/1 -
Hove BAGS, 15.48, Downland Georgie, Trap 3(*)
1st 7/2 - LOST
Perry Barr BAGS, 15.58, Clash
Elsie, Trap 5 2nd 9/4
Hove BAGS, 16.08, Fizzy Nectar, Trap 4 4th 7/2
Hove BAGS, 16.27, Westmead Angel, Trap 6 4th 7/4
Perry Barr BAGS, 16.37,
Three Cliffs, Trap 2 3rd 4/1
Hove BAGS, 16.48, Blakes Monarch, Trap 6 5th
Perry Barr BAGS, 16.57, Supreme Gwen, Trap 2 2nd 4/1
17.07, Toms Sophie, Trap 2(*) 3rd 3/1
Hove BAGS, 17.44, Coombe Tart, Trap
2(*) 4th 7/2
20 today 3 Loser (Screen Shot)
I had a crash on my computer in the
morning so the screen shot only shows 4.0 profit but of course I had already
made 4.00 on the previous two races. There were some good prices yesterday and
plenty of opportunities to win.
Here are today's.
11.28, Up And Down, 2
Sunderland BAGS, 11.34, Tequila Sunshine, Trap 2
Sunderland BAGS, 12.04, Coolbane Duke, Trap 2
Sheffield BAGS, 12.12,
Kirstys Pie, Trap 3
Sunderland BAGS, 12.18, Pond Negresco, Trap 6
Sheffield BAGS, 12.42, Easierdebtdotcom, Trap 1(*)
Sunderland BAGS, 12.47,
Beckfield Rocky, Trap 5
Sheffield BAGS, 12.58, Droopys Halina, Trap 6
Sheffield BAGS, 13.44, Chance Chat, Trap 6
Sunderland BAGS, 13.51, Delwood
Leanne, Trap 3
Romford BAGS, 14.08, Ivy Knows, Trap 4(*)
16.08, Michelob, Trap 3
Crayford BAGS, 16.57, Savana Delta, Trap 3
Romford BAGS, 17.07, Borna Toot, Trap 2
Romford BAGS, 17.44, Raging Road,
I set the
Horse bot price range from 1 -7.
9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections
This is a win system (test) that me and a friend
have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every
morning so although we created the system together he is the one really
Click Here to see the results so far.
12.50 Sedgefield, Kilty Storm 1st 4/7 / Noir Et Vert
Today. 13.40 Exeter, Bold Bishop/Sporazene
Use 50/50 if
you can make profit whatever the outcome. I am using 1pt on each selection.
10. New - Win Selections started
This is a new win system that John from
Luv2Lose has asked me to
show you. He expects the price to drop all the way to the off with these and
the idea is to get the best price above odds-on as you can. The verdict is
still out on whether to take selections that are below evens.
Yesterday: Exchange Prices taken at 8.35 am
Newbury 12.50 HOT
'N' HOLY EP 2.66 3rd 2/1
Lingfield 14.15 ARTZOLA EP 2.42 1st 4/6
1 win and a slight loss yesterday.
Today: Exchange Prices taken at 8.35
Southwell 14.00 ZED CANDY EP 2.5
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